[This story contains spoilers for Avengers: Endgame.]. Now audiences finally know the fate of Steve Rogers, but is it really what it seems? That Steve dated Sharon Carter. Look at how many kids John Tyler had late in his life, now imagined if he could live to an extended age due to supernatural assistance!) And it is because he needed to keep this secret that future Steve did not tell Sam Wilson (Anthony Mackie) the truth about his wife when Sam questioned him about his wedding ring at the end of Endgame. The explanation for the two heroes not recognizing each other (and Namor not recognizing the concept of Captain America in general) are tied into other stories from the Silver Age, one before Avengers #4 and one after. And when he found out she was alive, he was just lucky to have her. All we can tell now is that it seems like the Marvel Studios braintrust have a plan to resolve them down the road. He knows. Somehow, he was aware that Cap was going to live in the past, and its probably more than just intuition. Future US, Inc. Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, When he politely declines to tell Sam about his wife, it may be a nod to the audience: You dont get to know any of it either. Maybe theres a story there. Johnny Storm had recently quit the Fantastic Four in a fit of pique and when he came across Namor, he recognized the Golden Age hero and used his flames to burn Namor's beard off. Please also read our Privacy Notice and Terms of Use, which became effective December 20, 2019. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. New Movie News, Movie Trailers & upcoming Movie Reviews. That doesnt negate their relationship. Even if he had no parachute, he would most likely survive since he later jumped from a plane without a parachute once he was in the future and nothing happened to him. Because he's Sam's father, or grandfather. Press J to jump to the feed. Not only that, but even if Namor did not know STEVE ROGERS, Marvel continuity had established that Namor had met two other guys calling themselves Captain America, so even if he didn't know Steve, he surely should have recognized the Captain America costume. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Cookie Notice Perhaps no character faced more theorizing about his fate than Captain America (Chris Evans), whom many believed would die in part because Evans had been open about retiring from the role. Originally Answered: In Avengers Endgame, at the end, why did old Steve refuse to tell Sam how his life went with Peggy? The confirmation that Steve did become Peggy's husband may not have come untilEndgame, but this scene inThe Winter Soldieris where the set up first occurred. In 1986, Marvel debuted Marvel Saga, an ambitious re-telling of the Marvel Age of Comics by historian Peter Sanderson, using actual Marvel Comics to tell the story of the Marvel Universe in chronological order. Its unlikely Steve went back to that year to be with Peggy, especially since she would have already had a family by then. It's overall just kind of a weird thing that Steve would briefly have romantic feelings and make out with Peggy's great-niece if he loved Peggy so much. Captain America's cameo was one of the funniest parts of Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017), a film already filled with plenty of funny scenes. All Rights Reserved. Ahead of Avengers: Endgame, there was a years worth of speculation about the ending for its key players. It is a bit hard to forget a dude in a red, white and blue costume calling himself Captain America. At this point, unfortunately, all we can say about What If is its possible and who knows?. Entertainment Weekly may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. According to producer Michele Fazekas, Agent Carter, which was canceled before a third season, wouldve eventually given options as to the man in question, if not outright revealed the identity entirely. Avengers: Endgame brings the story of one Captain America to a close, in a way thats both surprising and logical. But how? After all, his own shield was shredded by Thanos in the final battle of Endgame. For previously mentioning that I should really talk about Black Panther #30. Bucky has been his friend for a long time, and while it's true that he suffered psychological damage because of his programming as the Winter Soldier, he has better powers than Sam. In Ant-Man (2015), we see a 1989 flashback in which Hank Pym (Michael Douglas) confronts SHIELD heads Howard Stark (John Slattery), Mitchell Carson (Martin Donovan) and Peggy about attempting to replicate the Pym Particles. Hiding from soldiers looking for him, Steve sneaks into an office and sees an old photo of him on the desk. The truth is, there are deliberate mysteries built into that sequence, which directors Joe and Anthony Russo suggested are setting up future stories. But its more likely she would think only that they looked similar to each other but not suspect that they were actually the same person, especially since Uncle Steve was quite older than the Captain America she knows. She tells Steve she has lived a long and fulfilling life before going through an episode where she thinks Steve has come back to her. Related: Theory: Captain America Became Mr. Rodgers After Traveling Back In Time. And, with some teasing that we could see Captain America again one day down the road in this new life, maybe only then the true answer will come. We already know not everyone involved with the movie feels the same way, but neither explanation has been explicitly made canon so far. Content Summary. Breaking news and interviews on comics, sci-fi, horror and more. If so, what became of that Sam, since the shield has now been brought to this timeline? When Bucky sees the older Steve sitting on a bench, he sends Wilson to him. Follow him on Twitter at @Brian_Cronin and feel free to e-mail him suggestions for stories about comic books that you'd like to see featured at brianc@cbr.com! He features legends about entertainment and sports at his website, Legends Revealed and other pop culture features at Pop Culture References. This is the lie, as Peggy knows that Steve will live a full life with her one day. In Captain America: Civil War, Sharon and Steve walk back to a hotel after the funeral and before Sam Wilson rushes to tell him about the terrorist attack, Steve asks Sharon if Peggy knew. We learn that Steve stayed in the past and lived . To live out his days with the love of his life, Peggy Carter. Captain America's fate in 'Avengers: Endgame' may be more simple than it seems. There was a problem. She couldn't tell him what would happen over the next decade or so of his life, as doing so could have likely altered Steve's mindset and decisions he made. After all, he works for the S.H.I.E.L.D. Wouldnt she recognize Uncle Steve as Captain America? The Hollywood Reporter is a part of Penske Media Corporation. If Cap were to go back into the past and live there, he would create a branched reality, Joe explained. But no matter the result, it would be pretty close. Sanderson would edit the stories together into a cohesive narrative and he would then throw in little extra bits to make it all fit. This is "The Book of Knowledge," a feature where I spotlight instances where notable revelations that affect comic book continuity were first made in texts outside of comic book stories themselves. In that scene, Peggy and Steve are finally reunited and dancing in what looks to be their home. Please enter a valid email and try again. Also, because she grew old with Steve, seeing a young Steve Rogers would trigger her to think hes come back to her. 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It was all Evans, created through a mix of prosthetics on his face and digital touchups to thin it all down. Instead, Steve kept the truth hidden and it led to the Avengers breaking apart when Tony finally found out. On the other hand, Joe adds, Sam doesnt know something. Falcon has no idea about Old Cap, which is why The Winter Soldier urges him to go up and talk to the now-elderly Steve Rogers. How will Falcon's status as the new Captain America work into the next phase of the MCU? Coopers love for movies began by watching Toy Story and Lion King on repeat as a child, but it wasn't until The Avengers that he took an invested interest in movies and the filmmaking process, leading him to discover the world of film journalism. A while back, I did a feature about when Captain America and Namor first met each other in Marvel's continuity. Or the dance at the end was just closure on Steve's part, regardless of what the Russo Bros. think, nothing is canon til its shown on screen. If so, that would allow him to live in the shadows as Peggys secret husband who has been acknowledged but gone unidentified so far in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Bucky and Sam Wilson are waiting for Captain America to return, but instead, they find an old version of Steve Rogers sitting on a bench nearby. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Entertainment Weekly is a registered trademark of Meredith Corporation All Rights Reserved. Okay, folks, this sort of thing is something that happens all the time, so if you have any suggestions for future "The Book of Knowledge" features, drop me a line at brianc@cbr.com! And Other Amazing Comic Book Trivia! According to McFeely Yeah I think it's clear from Sebastian's performance here that he's been clued into Steve's decision. Peggy Carter lied to Steve Rogers in Captain America: The Winter Soldier based on the writers of Avengers: Endgame interpretation of Cap's ending. Offers may be subject to change without notice. The next was in Tales of Suspense #75 (by Jack Kirby, Stan Lee, Dick Ayers and John Tartaglione), where we meet Captain America's World War II sweetheart, Peggy Carter. One of the biggest plot problems when it comes to Steve and Peggy's relationship is the Sharon and Steve love story. NY 10036. Why Didn't Captain America Mention Meeting Black Panther's Grandfather? But if that was his own family all along, then this ending allowed him to keep his integrity intact while marrying his soulmate and fulfilling his future. The plane would hold the direction, crash into the water and Steve would be safe and sound. What if the past wasnt actually erased, because future Steve Rogers is Peggys unnamed husband? So reader Samuel P. wrote in to ask why Captain America wouldn't have mentioned to T'Challa that he knew his grandfather and had actually BEEN to Wakanda before. What's worse, he did so shortly after Peggy died, even though she was supposed to be the love of his life. Published Jul 4, 2020. But the only one who even vaguely succeeds and wipes the smug smile off Thor's face is Steve who budges the hammer but doesn't lift it. Since Cap didn't tell Sam who his wife was, we technically don't know for sure. Even Haley Atwell, the star of the show, has never been able to give a definitive answer to the husband mystery. However, while that explains why Cap didn't bring it up to T'Challa and even why he didn't recognize Black Panther right away, it DOESN'T explain why Cap's thought balloons clearly note that he doesn't know where Wakanda is. She even mentioned that"even after he died, Steve was still changing my life." Neither of those comic books expressly said that that is why Captain America and Namor did not recognize each other, but that was the basis for another comic book series doing so. These are all valid questions, according to the Russos, but we dont have answers to them yet. Subscribe for full access to The Hollywood Reporter. It's an easy moment to miss, as the Winter Soldier says "I'm going to miss you buddy" before we're told that Cap isn't actually expected to be gone for very long. Today, we look into the long-coming explanation for why Captain America and Namor did not recognize each other when they met in Avengers #4. One True Loves: What We Know About Simu Liu's New Romance Movie, Jay Hernandez Shares The Magnum P.I. In their feature spotlighting revelations first unveiled outside of comics, CSBG shows why Cap and Namor didn't recognize each other in Avengers #4. I loved it. MORE: Avengers: Endgame Writer Confirms 'Old Steve' Cameo Theory. Maybe not. Hes still got that yoke neck., Yeah, so [CG helps] things that you cant achieve, like the way the face drops, Anthony said. When the two have a brief conversation later, Steve even calls Peter 'kid', indicating he knows how young Peter is. It's a funny moment but it doesn't correspond with what is known about the hammer - a person is either worthy of lifting it or the hammer doesn't move at all. Each individuals future is definitive. While many suspected that Steve Rogers would be hanging up the shield following Avengers: Endgame, the question of who would take it up was open. The way time travel works in Endgame involves alternate realities. And Other Amazing Comic Book Trivia! See what EW thinks of the 'Avengers: Endgame,' starring Robert Downey Jr., Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Scarlett Johansson, Mark Ruffalo, Paul Rudd, Brie Larson, and more. Brendan Fraser Says He Nearly Died on the Set of The Mummy: I Was Choked Out Accidentally. He graduated college in 2016 with a Bachelor's degree in Media & Public Communication, with a minor in Media Production. newsletter, Destiny 2 power level guide, all caps and Powerful and Pinnacle gear sources explained, The best way to increase your Power level in Destiny 2s new Lightfall expansion, Marvel still doesnt know what to do with its most popular hero, Spider-Man, Spider-Man endures, almost in spite of many Spider-Man stories, The official BTS Lego set is now available, I have never found myself so inexplicably attracted to a set of Lego Minifigs, Where to buy the Pokmon Go Plus Plus device, The new Pokmon Go sleep-tracking multitool will start shipping July 14, Sign up for the The first hint came in Tales of Suspense #75 (by Jack Kirby, Stan Lee, Dick Ayers and John Tartaglione), where we meet Sharon Carter for the first time, who reminds Captain America of his World War II sweetheart, Peggy Carter. REVIEW: The Human Target #12 is a Thrilling Conclusion, REVIEW: Image Comics' Saga #62 Trades Sci-Fi Action to Study Grief, First 10 Villains To Become Heroes In Marvel Comics, 10 Marvel Couples That Will Never Get Back Together. In Endgame, the Hulk and the Ancient One explain how changes to the past work. So in the past, Steve, wanting to keep hidden starts using the surname Wilson. NEXT: 10 Most Memorable Quotes From Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Kath Leroy is a writer at Screen Rant. Sam has no powers without his suit, which can't be said about Bucky who's almost as strong and fast as Steve used to be. Steves story has truly come full circle. We use cookies and other tracking technologies to improve your browsing experience on our site, show personalized content and targeted ads, analyze site traffic, and understand where our audiences come from. Another question some moviegoers have about this final scene is was that really Chris Evans as Old Man Cap, or a lookalike who was actually elderly? CBR Senior Writer Brian Cronin has been writing professionally about comic books for over fifteen years now at CBR (primarily with his Comics Should Be Good series of columns, including Comic Book Legends Revealed). It was later revealed that the Captain America in that story was actually a different patriotic superhero known as the Spirit of '76. The Russos confirm Bucky knew. Did Cap jump back in time before or after he rescued the father of her children? When Peter Parker aka Spider-Man shows up in the airport scene in Captain America: Civil War (2016) and steals Captain America's shield, Steve doesn't seem so surprised by the young hero's presence. He says, Ill miss you. Clearly he knows something.. (And at what point in this zig-zagging, criss-crossing time jumping did Cap retrieve or rebuild his shield after Thanos cracked it in half, another imperfection in the timeline that cant be undone?) So Steve would lift it all the way up or not at all. Another question: Where was future Steve during Peggys time in the nursing home and at her funeral? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Hes coy about saying her name in both classic Hollywood and Marvel fashion, therell always be a little mystery to their on-screen romance but this is one of the happy endings. Why? Perhaps. That has to be taken back to The Dark World era to set the timelines straight, too. Both Sam Wilson and Bucky Barnes have become Captain America in the comics, so which would it be in the MCU? In Marvel Saga #12, we learn the story of how Captain America joined the Avengers and Sanderson shows Namor finding Cap in the ice and Sanderson specifically adds in the bit that Namor's then-recently restored memory was hazy enough that Namor no longer remembered Captain America After a tangent where Sanderson went back to give us the background of Captain America's World War II adventures, the writer shows us Captain America and Namor fighting and Sanderson uses the aforementioned memory problems to explain why Captain America and Namor could not recognize each other For the most part, Marvel Saga just followed the established stories of the Marvel Universe, but every so often, Sanderson would come up with something new to make it all seem more coherent and this was an example of that impulse. He could have set the plane on a collision course and then jump out of it. Still, maybe we will. When Cap was preparing to for the trip, which is only supposed to last a few seconds in the main timeline, his old friend from Brooklyn gives him a surprisingly heavy farewell. Initially it sounds like it was a random soldier that Cap saved, but could she have been referring to Captain America himself since technically he saves himself as well? Inthe sequel, Steve visits an aged and sick Peggy, whonow appears to have liedto Steve as she knew of his ultimate future. Kitty Kallens rendition of Its Been a Long, Long Time plays them, and the film, off. When Cap fails to materialize at the appointed time after returning the Infinity Stones . Remember after her funeral in Civil War, Cap mentioned that when he came out of the ice he thought everyone he'd known was gone. 1 1.Endgame, at the end, why did old Steve refuse to tell Sam - Quora; 2 2. and added all of the extra stuff. When Cap doesn't return right away through the time portal, Professor Hulk (Mark Ruffalo) is perplexed and explains that he blew past his time stamp. Captain America Vs. Thanos: Who Would Win? True, considering Steve's real age, everybody is a kid to him, but it's still a nice hypothetical twist that the films just didn't focus on. Does Rogers mean this as in, it is yours now, or is he telling the literal truth? Why doesnt he interfere in all the major tragedies and conflicts that we know about? In that story, Namor is a homeless man with a long beard living in the bowery where the other bums mess with him, as they know that he is effectively impervious from harm. The best Peggy could've done is maybegive him some advice about not pursuing a relationship with a nurse down the hall, just so nothinghappened between him and his great-niece. However, here's the tricky part. By choosing I Accept, you consent to our use of cookies and other tracking technologies. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Its a balance we want to always strike between making him feel credibly aged, but also not compromising the performance.. We know. [Ed. Still, it looks like Captain America isn't that well-off, considering he mentioned he can't afford to live in Brooklyn anymore. If future Steve had stayed to be with Peggy, wouldnt that mean the existence that she created with her unnamed husband and their two children would be erased? When he wakes up in the 21st century and feels isolated and separated from everyone he once knew and loved if the deleted scene from Avengers (2012) is anything to go by. At the end of Avengers: Endgame, a 1940s-style car passed through the scene, confirming the era. The miniseries Captain America/Black Panther: Flags of Our Fathers saw Captain America and Nick Fury and the Howling Commandoes go to Wakanda in World War II to keep the Nazis from taking the country over and taking control of its Vibranium supply. 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